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Sigurd a écrit :Personne pour poster le nouveau trailer ?

C'est parce que ça vous donne trop envie ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXAuiDo5DHg

Il est posté depuis 8h du matin
http://www.cloneweb.net/actualite/man-o ... -la-terre/

Mea culpa !

Je ne l'avais pas vu sur le topic, donc me suis demandé si vous le boudiez !

Première critique
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/62552

cloneweb a écrit :Première critique
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/62552

Superman hasn’t been done better than this

Notons au passage que l'auteur n'a pas l'air d'être le premier fanboy venu, à en croire ses propos.

Technique classique du fanboy pour légitimer ses propos.

http://www.cloneweb.net/superman-return ... n-trailer/

cloneweb a écrit :
http://www.cloneweb.net/superman-return ... n-trailer/

J'ai comme l'impression que j'ai eu raison d'y croire !

Je reste méfiant : Goyer + Snyder + Nolan quand même.
Mais ca a de la gueule, faut bien l'admettre.

Réponse dans deux semaines

Bof, ça m'en touche une sans faire bouger l'autre comme dirait l'autre. Ce côté ultra pompeux-darko-réaliste me saoule déjà.

Dit le mec qui va ressortir la braguette grande ouverte.

Xidius a écrit :Dit le mec qui va ressortir la braguette grande ouverte.

On verra bien, j'espère

Tempérons un peu les ardeurs :

The Nolan treatment just doesn't really work for Superman. We are, after all, talking about a mystical alien from a faraway planet full of (in Snyder's version, anyway) monsters and spaceships that look like beetles and crab claws. An alien who is made super strong by our young sun's radiation, who can fly and shoot lasers out of his eyes and see through people's clothes and skin and into their organs. A rich guy who lives in a cave and makes wacky gadgets is one thing, he can sorta feasibly live in a world we recognize, but Superman? I'm afraid it just can't be done. And more importantly, it shouldn't be done. What's wrong with Superman being fun, having fun, existing in a world where, sure, he can go change in a phone booth and become unrecognizable when he puts on glasses? I've no doubt that Snyder, Goyer, and Nolan really are fans of Superman, but they sure do seem to find the world he once existed in to be pretty stupid. Hence the moment with Lois Lane, this little winking joke about how ridiculous a world in which people actually called someone Superman would be. They want it both ways — the high-flying adventure and the gritty real-world tone — and thus fail at both. We laugh, and not in the good way, at the more traditional Super moments, and roll our eyes when the movie goes for gravitas.

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Standing back from the totality of Man of Steel allows the observance of a curious disaster: an expensive actioner with nary a thrilling beat; a “character piece” (this is very likely too generous) whose character is barely tangible in mere presence; a refreshingly wordy screenplay that, once actually spoken, is revealed to use its vast, vast majority of chances for interaction among great, better-than-this actors to instead spout off sci-fi exposition that holds too little proper context [...] or, much less, provides any signal of so much as an attempt at coherence. This is not a missed opportunity which rightfully elicits a sigh, but inert big-budget spectacle that is nigh deserving of contempt.

j'attends de voir moi.
Cette critique a même tendance à me rassurer. Autant je peux croire au surhomme qui vole et a des yeux lasers, autant le type qui va se changer dans une cabine de téléphone, ce n'est pas fun, c'est totalement stupide! Même quand j'étais gamin je trouvais ça débile! Je trouve que c'est une bonne chose que l'univers de ce superman soit plus crédible et moins porté sur la comédie. On peut très bien mettre de l'incroyable dans un monde crédible, le contraste en sera d'autant plus flagrant, mais le rendra aussi plus incroyable encore
J'espère juste que ce superman sera moins déprécif que Wayne dans TDKR... Il le sera surement un peu pendant le passage "bardu" avant qu'il ne découvre la forteresse de solitude et son nouveau costume (si c'est bien comme ça que se déroule l'intrigue...), mais tant que l'intégralité du film ne l'est pas, ça devrait aller

Mark Waid donne son avis :

Look, I know everyone involved in MAN OF STEEL went into it with the best of intentions. And trust me, there are not rivers or coastlines on this planet long enough to measure just how much I wanted to love this movie. If you don’t know me, you can’t imagine. And there were certainly things to like. But there was no triumph to it. None of Superman’s victories in this movie are in any way the kind of stand-up-and-cheer events you’d think necessary in a movie with Superman in it. Did it succeed in what it sent out to do? I think probably so. But what it set out to do, as it turns out, leaves me cold. With the exception of the first-flight beat–the smile Superman gets when he first takes to the air–it’s utterly joyless. From start to finish. Utterly. Joyless. And I just have no interest in relentless joyless from a guy who can fly.